Ibis Ripley 29″

SURFAS

New Member
Pois é eles andavam a prometer e cumpriram. Algo estou a achar de interessante por parte das marcas Americanas. À uns anos as novidades eram a presentadas no Interbike (tipo Eurobike Americano) e no Eurobika só traziam o "velho". De à dois anos para cá, nota-se as novidades a serem apresentadas no Eurobike e marcas que nunca tinham estado presentes já se fazem sentir na Europa.

E atenção ao DW link que irá para uma 2ª geração que se chamará 2XC uma ideia parecida com o novo sistema Yeti!!!! Sinceramente acho este senhor Dave Weagle com muita falta de ideias!!!!

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Don’t you just love Eurobike… Okay so everyone knows now that I have a penchant for things with 29″ wheels but please don’t think i’m bombarding you with this stuff, its just that all these companies are only just figuring it out now, so 2012 will be forever known as the year of the real 29er, not the lame-XC-not-much-travel-29er but the 29er-that-is-actually-good-for-mountain-biking 29er… and one of the most memorable will be thi Ibis DW Link 2XC 29 machine. Rumors of it have been floating round for a while, but know one really thought it would feature a new version of Dave Weagles DW Link. The new iteration is called 2XC, in reference to it’s two eccentric pivots. The Ibis has been in prototype stage for – 4 years!!
Features of the Ripley 29:

29″ wheels
120mm rear wheel dw-link travel
Twin angular contact composite bearing eccentric linkages
Full carbon fiber monocoque with sacrifical core molding
Tapered head tube (Cane Creek AngleSet & Chris King InSet compatible)
Kashima coated Fox Float RP23 with Adaptive Logic Boost Valve technology
Clean cable routing with molded carbon cable stops and provisions for cable-actuated adjustable seat posts
BB92/Press GXP style integrated BB is lighter and stiffer and better for molding
142mm Maxle rear axle provides high axle stiffness with QR ease of wheel removal and installation
160mm carbon fiber post mount rear brake mounts
High direct front derailleur, mounted to swingarm
Geometry designed to work with 120-140mm forks
34mm fork stanchion approved
4 Sizes (S, M, L, XL)
Weight TBD
Price TBD but in line with our other frames
Delivery TBD, but not in 2011

 
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pirilampo

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Estou a achar esse apoio frontal do amortecedor(falta-me a palavra), frágil, muito alongado?
De resto está muito gira...120 de curso para trás e com o eixo de 142 p+ara lhe dar mais resistência e 120-140 para a frente..temos maquinão para all-mountain...
Esperemos para ver...Candidato-me desde já e caso seja necessário(mesmo que não seja, estou pronto) a testar uma para ver como a mesma se comporta...Ok Cesár?
 

SURFAS

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Pois .... eu também acho. Mas vamos ver como se porta, mas o apoio não é apenas apoio é uma parte do link superior

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RTC

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Essa é a versão final? É no Eurobike?

Pneus Specialized? Por acaso nunca vi nenhuma marca a montar pneus Specz sem ser a própria :confused:
 

SURFAS

New Member
Sim esta é a versão final exposta no Eurobike e pronta para as encomendas, MAS só haverá entregas para 2012! Pois os pneus Spech !!!! é uma opção, há melhores ....

a versão anterior, prototipo era esta

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shelltox

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Está engraçada..mas o triângulo frontal,deixou de ser 'á ibis' passou a ser quase comum.
Curioso também acho é o desviador da frente estar no braço de suspensão
 

SURFAS

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E finalmente aqui está ELA

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The Ibis Ripley is a 120-millimeter travel, 29er uber-trail bike. The Ripley is capable of rocking a 140-milimeter fork up front, yet boasts a frame weight of just 5.2 pounds. This is not, however, the bike that Ibis originally planned to build.

NO EXTERNAL LINKAGES
Ibis had intended to design a cross-country 29er with just 100-millimeters of travel. A kind of switchblade of a bike for the XC racer crowd. So they went to Dave Weagle (he of DW-Link fame) and asked him to create the simplest, lightest version of the DW-Link.

Ibis wanted the lightest and stiffest bike in class. Weagle surprised Ibis by suggesting that they use two small eccentric links housed in the seat tube, as opposed to external linkages. There’d be several benefits: the eccentrics themselves would be light and small, plus they’d allow for a shorter rear end, more tire and front derailleur clearance and they’d keep the swirly suspension bits from getting coated in mud and muck.

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Ibis originally planned to use angular contact bushings in the Ripley's eccentric pivots, but found bearings to be a better choice in their design.

FROM BUSHINGS TO BEARINGS
Ibis intended to make the eccentrics pivot on bushings and settled on a variety that have been used in the doors and hoods of cars for an eternity thanks to a “virtually infinite lifespan”. As a back-up plan, they also began designing a bearing version, just in case things didn’t go peachy with the bushings, which is exactly what happened.

Initial testing with the bushings went quite well—for a good, long while actually—until Ibis racer, Evan Plews, was racing a sloppy 100-mile endurance race in Georgia and the bushing system got gunked with mud and went tits up. Evan finished the race, but the contamination thoroughly the bushings. Ibis realized they needed to rethink the bushing project. In essence, they found that there wasn’t enough room for both the required bushing material and adequate seals in their particular eccentric configuration.

So, the Ibis Ripley now uses bearings in the eccentric links. In the end, they were able to make a bearing version that weighs within 21 grams of the original bushing design. Impressive. Ibis states that the bearings are also easier to assemble and service, more readily available to consumers, stronger and stiffer than the bushings they were going to use, and that the bearing system gives the bike better small-bump performance.

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The eccentric linkages allow for a very tidy frame. Ibis contends that housing the eccentrics in the seat-tube should isolate them from mud and other contaminants. And, yes, as this photo illustrates, the Ripley apparently also comes in a Darth Vader meets Kawasaki green color-scheme.

THEY HAD TO CHANGE FACTORIES
Long story short, after a few years it became clear that the factory that Ibis had been using for their previous models just couldn’t make the Ibis Ripley. There were too many novel shapes and features going on in the Ripley frame. So Ibis ate the costs on the molds developed at the first factory and started up with a new manufacturer. The upside, according to Ibis, is that they were able to build a stiffer and stronger frame. This, however, added time to the project.

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Sexy.

REVISED (TRAIL-ORIENTED) GEOMETRY AND TRAVEL
Somewhere along this odyssey, trends changed and the folks at Ibis realized that they really didn’t like riding 100-millimeter forks on 29ers. Just too little travel. So, they upped the rear travel on the bike to 120-millimeters. Ibis had also originally planned to equip the small and medium-sized Ripleys with 26-inch wheels, because they couldn’t get the handlebars low enough. Fork tapers were too long at the time, which required very long headtubes that (in conjunction with the 29er forks’ longer axle to crown dimensions) would lead to stupidly high handlebars and crap handling. Fork manufacturers, however, began shortening the tapers on their steerers and this allowed Ibis to make the entire Ibis Ripley line in a 29er flavor.

It took awhile to dial in the geometry as well. Basically, Ibis wanted to build a 29er that steered and handled like a nimble 26er, but which also brought big-wheel benefits to the party (namely better angle of attack and roll over). When Trek opened up the 51-millimeter fork offset to other manufacturers (it was originally a Gary Fisher exclusive), Ibis was able to reduce the trail on the fork and improve the responsiveness of the steering (so that, again, it more closely matched that of a 26er).

THE END RESULT
Ibis went to great lengths to make a bike with a shorter rear-center, low standover, low handlebar height, and low bottom bracket—all with an intent to give the bike a more agile feel. They also, however, opted for a somewhat slacker head angle and a longer front center—to give the bike a more stable and confident feel on descents.

As we mentioned earlier, you can also run a 140-millimeter fork on the Ibis Ripley, which obviously slackens the head angle a bit (from 70-degrees with a 120 fork to 68.5-degrees with the longer travel option) . If you feel like geeking out on geometry charts, we’ve included them here as well.

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Here's the Ripley geometry when equipped with a 120-millimeter fork.

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...and here's the Ripley geometry when spearheaded by a 140-millimeter fork.

As for drivetrain, you can run the bike as a triple, double or a single-ring set up. Ibis states that the Ripley is, in fact, the first DW-Link bike designed around a 2×10 drivetrain. It’s optimized to mesh with a 35-millimeter chainring and will pedal well with the 29er-friendly (lower-geared) double chainring set ups. Clearly, XX1 would work well here. But if you love your triple-ring crankset, Ibis notes that’ll work just fine as well.

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Here are the Ripley’s key features
• 120mm rear wheel dw-link travel
• 5.0 Pound frame with X-Fusion MicroLite Shock, 5.2 pounds with Fox RP23 CTD
• Approved for 120-140mm forks, 32 or 34 stanchion
• Tapered head tube (Cane Creek AngleSet & Chris King InSet 3)
• Internal TT cable routing with molded carbon cable stops
• Shock Specs: 184mm x 44mm with .4 volume spacer
• Provision for cable-actuated adjustable seat posts
• BB92/Press GXP style integrated BB
• 142mm Maxle rear axle
• 160mm carbon fiber post mount rear brake mounts
• High direct mount front derailleur mounts directly on swingarm
• Headset: IS ZS44/28.6 | EC49/40
• BB height w/ 2.1″ tires: 325mm (12.8″)
• Geometry measured with 520.8mm axle to crown fork
 

SURFAS

New Member
Eles bloquearam porque ainda não estava na altura. A Ibis só deu autorização para ser publicado às 16:00 (hora Portuguesa), mas vai estar desbloqueado!!

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Ola
Curiosa a maneira que apresentaram na parte que oscila entre o triângulo traseiro para o da frente
A minha dúvida será naquele pequenos braços no triângulo traseiro a lama e afins vão se alojar com facilidade
Mas não deixa de ser um grande e bonito quadro
 

SURFAS

New Member
"Blazingly fast 29er trail bike – well worth the wait"
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Six years in the making, the long-rumored Ibis Ripley 29 trail bike was first put on display at the 2011 Eurobike show, but it would be almost two years before anyone could actually buy one.

Thankfully for Ibis, it's been well worth the wait, as the Ripley is flat-out awesome. Pedaling efficiency and weight are comparable to offerings from short-travel race bikes, the handling is entertainingly tossable, and the bike tracks the ground with impressive tenacity. Oh, and it looks great, too.

Ride & handling: Race bike efficiency with trail bike manners

Much of the Ripley's enviable performance can be traced back to its fantastic dw-link rear suspension system. With a healthy amount of anti-squat built into the linkage kinematics, pedaling efficiency is not only far better than what we'd normally expect from a trail bike but comparable to deliveries from the best short-travel full-suspension race bikes.

Seated climbing on perfectly smooth surfaces yields virtually zero unwanted shock movement, and intentionally jerky out-of-the-saddle efforts do almost nothing to upset the stability of the 120mm travel rear end.

After the first few rides where we were purposely fiddling with settings for the sake of experimentation, we never needed to switch the rear shock out of the fully open mode throughout three months of steady testing – even when clawing our way up steep, ledgy Colorado climbs.

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Ibis Ripley 29 trail bike

Even better, the rear end is fully free to track the ground unencumbered, as the pedaling efficiency is designed into the suspension itself instead of relying on heavy-handed compression valving.

The super-sensitive small bump performance levels more minor trail imperfections while remaining totally composed on bigger impacts without transferring undue harshness to the rider. Overall, the feel is unflappably planted but never dead.

The appropriate spring curve doesn't wallow in the middle of the stroke, either, and you can easily take advantage of the plentiful 'pop' out back. We quickly found ourselves pumping even minor dips in the trail and leaping out of bermed corners for extra speed – while Ibis doesn't endorse such behavior, the springiness of the rear end makes the Ripley a natural for clearing small doubles.

Adding to the Ripley's lively personality is its nimble handling. On paper, the 70-degree head tube angle and unusually short 1,100mm wheelbase – one degree steeper and nearly 50mm shorter than a comparably sized Specialized Stumpjumper FSR – would perhaps suggest an uncomfortably twitchy feel.

Not surprisingly, then, the Ripley is more than ready and willing to change direction. It's ridiculously flickable in fast, twisty singletrack – big wheels and all – and even tight uphill switchbacks are easy to navigate. Reasonably short, 445mm long chain stays make for relatively simple manuals, too.

Any expected high-speed instability is tempered by the extremely low, 325mm bottom bracket height – 13mm closer to the ground than the already-low Stumpy. You have to be very careful with pedal strikes as a result, but skilled riders will relish the awesome cornering tenacity that results from such a low center of gravity.

We did notice some front triangle flex under very hard cornering loads, although Ibis says we were supplied with an early preproduction sample.

"Your bike is from the second pilot run, and since then we've reinforced around the front of the head tubes and added a layer to the top tube so the production frames will actually be stiffer," said Ibis founder Scot Nicol. "There won't be a huge difference, but certainly noticeable. By the way, this layup is plenty safe. If you were a 300lb guy with a 34 fork headed to Whistler, we'd feel differently. [Brian] Lopes raced this layup at Punta Ala and at Sea Otter Downhill, FYI."

Taken in total, the blistering pedaling performance, supple rear end, fast-rolling 29in wheels, and quick yet stable handling make for a freakishly fast ride. We smashed more than a few Strava PRs on standard test loops, and continued to record similarly fast times on other familiar trails. While we've found the Ripley to be a highly capable trail rig, it mostly just wants to go.

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The tapered head tube is very short to help maintain a reasonable handlebar height

That said, its unique geometry yields a couple of key quirks, too. For one, that short wheelbase comes with a correspondingly short cockpit, with 30mm less reach than the Stumpjumper's fairly standard layout. We ended up resorting to a 90mm (and, occasionally, 100mm) stem but potential buyers should seriously consider going up a size.

Secondly, the very low bottom bracket effectively increases the stack, so if you tend to have problems getting your bar at a proper height on a 29er, it will only be a bigger issue here.

"Part of the reason the Ripley handles so well is that is has a short wheelbase for a 29er with that much travel," said Nicol. "You can't do that with a super-long top tube so you have to use a slightly longer stem than is currently fashionable.

"A lot of people think they like a short stem for handling but we don't necessarily agree. We think they like them for the feeling of confidence that they're not going to go over the bars when on the steeps.

"And we also think that's old news for a couple of reasons. One, a 120mm travel 29er fork and wheel is really long, so the fulcrum for going over the bars is much further forward than it was before. So you don't need a short stem to feel like you're behind it. Second, dropper posts have lowered your center of gravity while descending, further increasing your confidence that you're not going to go over the bars."

Frame: Feathery light and clean but cable routing needs work

The visual giveaway of any dw-link bike is a pair of short links that connect the solid front and rear triangles, yet when you look at the Ripley there are none to be seen. Instead, both ends are connected with eccentric pivots that are wholly housed inside the giant seat tube. It's not only a clean look but the full complement bearings are fairly well protected from grime, too. Moreover, they're common sizes and the pivots are easily disassembled for quick servicing when necessary.

That compact arrangement might also contribute to the Ripley's very good chassis weight. Complete with rear shock, rear derailleur hanger, and seatpost collar, actual weight of our medium sized test bike is just 2,480g.

Not surprisingly given the rest of the Ibis lineup, the Ripley uses carbon fiber construction for both the front and rear triangles. Standard modern features apply here as well, including a tapered head tube, PF86 bottom bracket, 142x12mm thru-axle dropouts with post-mount rear brake caliper tabs, and a high direct-mount front derailleur anchor that's built into the rear swingarm. There's no provision for a stealth-style internally routed dropper post, though.

The Ripley does technically include internal routing, but only barely – and it's poorly done. Just two paths run inside the top tube from the head tube to just above the rear shock, and it's frustrating to run fresh lines with no internal guides and small holes at either end.

Routing in general leaves much to be desired, with the top-routed cables bowing out above the rear shock when the suspension is compressed. If you're not careful, the front derailleur housing can rub badly on the carbon rear shock yoke as well, which will lead to some ugly scuffs, at best, or some deep gouges.

Speaking of rub, we unfortunately encountered a critical issue during our customary teardown that marred (literally) what is otherwise a brilliant chassis. Housings enter the frame at the front of the head tube and then run around the steerer on their way through the top tube. In our case, though, the housing was actually rubbing on the steerer tube itself – and we confirmed with other Ripley owners that this was the case with their bikes, too.

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The internally routed housing rubs on the sides of the Ripley 29's steerer

One wouldn't expect that to be a problem, but as any owner of an aluminum frame persistently rubbing on housing can attest, it will only be a matter of time before structurally dangerous grooves are worn into the steerer.

Ibis says future stock will be fitted with a stainless steel sleeve to go over the steerer to prevent damage, and current owners will receive one free of charge. It's a disappointingly hokey interim fix but one that should be effective nonetheless. Ultimately, we hope Ibis will simply revert back to external routing and also reposition the lines to run along the top of the down tube, a la Santa Cruz.

Equipment: Outstanding mix of SRAM and Shimano

Ibis offers the Ripley with a number of different build kits and optional upgrades, so you can feel free to create the bike of your dreams – or budget, as the case may be. The frame costs US$2,899/£2,649.

Our top-end tester came equipped with the cream of the crop and there was little to complain about. Ibis don't have a direct comparison for the build in terms of UK pricing, but standard XT models cost US$5,599/£5,224 and XTR versions US$6,999/£6,399.

Highlighting our build is SRAM's excellent XX1 1x11 group. The overall range is usefully broad, and with a 32-tooth chainring fitted we never felt a need for lower gears, even on long climbs in the Colorado Front Range. Shifting was crisp and precise, too, and we never suffered a dropped chain thanks to the cleverly alternating tooth profiles.

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Our test Ibis Ripley 29 arrived with SRAM's fantastic XX1 1x11 drivetrain

Ibis made a wise substitution in the brake department, with Shimano's XTR stoppers offering a better lever feel and far better reliability than the XX or X0 Trail options from Avid. Paired with a 180mm rotor up front and a 160mm one out back, there was more than enough power for typical trail riding situations, excellent modulation and ergonomics, and silent operation.

The optional EC90 XC wheels' carbon fiber rims helped keep our sample down to just 10.86kg (23.94lb) without pedals. They were also impressively rigid and, thanks to Easton's recent rear hub bearing upgrades, we expect reliability to improve too. That said, riders who tend to run lower pressures and hit frequent rocky terrain might want to consider more forgiving aluminum hoops.

We had no complaints about the KS LEV dropper post. Action was smooth and predictable, there's minimal play, and the fixed cable anchor is a far cleaner solution than the dynamic one used by most of the other players. The tidy remote occupies little space on the bar, too, and is easy to access.

Ibis includes an outstanding Fox 32 Float CTD fork with all build kits, and if you want something a little beefier there's an option for a 34 that adds about US$240 and 200g. We tried both in an effort to offset the front triangle flex and, surprisingly, preferred the 32 for its more balanced feel front to back – go figure.

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