Santa Cruz 29er Highball Carbon Hardtail

Discussion in 'Santa Cruz & Ibis Bicycles' started by ruiabreu, 24 December 2010.

  1. SURFAS

    SURFAS New Member

    Meus amigos das 29" C U I D A D O, as rodas das 29" são o calcanhar de Aquiles. Sinceramente nunca tinha experimentado caixas cónicas, eixos de 15mm e não notei grandes diferenças, mas notei bastantes diferenças nas rodas da Tallboy, que eram umas Mavic C29Max que estão no mesmo segmento das minhas 26" Crossmax ST, mas a nivel de rigidez não são nada parecidas.

    Já agora o Mike Ferrentino no Interbike

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    Last edited: 15 September 2011
  2. SURFAS

    SURFAS New Member

    Agora pneus ....... QUEREM PNEUS BONS PARA A HIGHBALLLLLL???

    A solução

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  3. rogeronquest

    rogeronquest New Member

    Surfas não percebi explica lá melhor o que queres dizer? E esse pneu 2.50 é muito não?
    Quanto ao peso MMts por alto ronda as 1580 grmas essa montagem! A American Classic vai lançar umas sub 1500grms!!!!
     
  4. RTC

    RTC Super Moderador

    OFFTOPIC: Roger, recebi a tua MP mas não consigo responder porque não tens as MP activadas. Ou dás-me mail ou então activas a recepção das MP.
    ;)
     
  5. MMTS

    MMTS Member

    obrigada...
     
  6. syndicaterider

    syndicaterider New Member

    Boas Surfas, quando fazia umas descidas usava os Minion, mas nem nessa altura gastei essa medida..usava 2.35 e a meu ver era o suficiente. Realmente são uns excelentes pneus ,mas serão mais indicados para pessoal mais endureiro!!
     
  7. SURFAS

    SURFAS New Member

    Calma malta, só me estava a meter com vcs :mrgreen: ... aquele é um pneu novo da Maxxis 2.5 :choneh: para roda 29"!!!
    Nos USA os pneus mais usados nas 29" tipo Highball são os Maxxis Ikon, Crossmark e os Schwalbe Racing Ralph.

    Pelo que sei a Mavic em conjunto com Absolon e outros está a fazer uma roda de raiz para as 29", porque o problema é que os raios das 29" são muito maiores que das 26", dai a flexibilidade das rodas 29" e neste campo os cubos Chub tem a vantagem de ter flancos maiores tornando os raios menores. Penso que a DT já tem ou vai ter uns cubos com os flancos maiores.
     
  8. SURFAS

    SURFAS New Member

    Agora fora de brincadeira que tal estes

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    Maxxis Maxxlite 29" apenas 330g :#1:
     
  9. rogeronquest

    rogeronquest New Member

    Mais uma contribuição, esta foi a o peso marcado pelo meu quadro tamanho "L" nu, antes de ser montado:

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  10. SURFAS

    SURFAS New Member

  11. SURFAS

    SURFAS New Member

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  12. old_fox

    old_fox Member

    Que belo tapete rolante... :yeah:
     
  13. old_fox

    old_fox Member

    Surfas, as C29ssmax são assim tão diferentes das Crossmax ST 26"?
    Tenho visto alguns anúncios de venda de C29ssmax e começo a ter dúvidas se serão uma boa aposta para 29"!!!
     
  14. SURFAS

    SURFAS New Member

    Olha eu notei!!
    Para comparar, não notei a diferença na caixa de direcção cónica, não notei diferença no eixo de 15mm e nunca tinha experimentado estas "modernices" mas notei as rodas e os pneus, só uso UST onde as paredes do pneu são mais rígidas que nos normais. Mas não sou só eu, e penso que ainda é o calcanhar de Aquiles das 29"! Pelo que sei a Mavic está a fazer umas 29" de raiz que não é o caso das C29Max.
     
  15. SURFAS

    SURFAS New Member

    Atrás tanto faz mas na frente, neste momento, apostava num cubo Chub ou o DT Swiss 340.
     
  16. SURFAS

    SURFAS New Member

    "I’m a full-suspension fan… in a big way. The comfort, the control, the “long- haul ability” of them and the way they absorb roots, rocks and landings just flat out makes me smile. When the Hard-Tail Santa Cruz HighBall 29 arrived I knew that I would have to look at and ride it with an open mind. Getting to spec this rig out was a treat and I chose a full XTR outfit to accompany the sexy lines of the black carbon and red decals of the HighBall. When I received the box, my apprehension turned to excitement and I stayed up a few extra hours the night and as I built her up I was conjuring up ideas of grandeur, climbing like a billy goat and leaving my competition in the dust!

    Here’s how it went…

    SPECS & WEIGHT:

    Frame- Carbon fiber one piece front triangle with integrated fibers into rear triangle and tapered head tube
    Fork- Float 29 100 Kashima FIT RLC Taper
    Bars- Easton EC 70
    Drivetrain and Brakes- 2012 XTR xc 29
    Wheels- Mavic TN 719 disc rims laced to Chub 15mm front hub and DT 240S rear hub w/ DT 14/15 gauge spokes, alloy nipples
    Size/Weight (sans pedals)- XL, 23.21 lbs
    MSRP: $6776 as spec’d (XTR xc 29)

    Tyler covered this bike at launch with a full technical breakdown of the frame technology and more. My review here covers only the riding impressions.
    RIDE REVIEW:

    The inaugural ride on the HighBall was on trails I’m quite familiar with, the trailhead being about 200m from my front door as a crow flies. They’re single track switchbacks followed by a steady climb to an overlook and then single track as well as logging roads for more than 50miles it total. “Stealth,” as I nicknamed the HighBall, was able to traverse the first few climbs rather well with a lighter front end than I am accustomed and a nimble rear triangle with just enough stiffness vertically and phenomenal laterally to ensure force being applied to the pedals went directly into the rear wheel without the frame flexing in the slightest.

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    I pointed the bike upward and onward and was enjoying every second and feeling as if I have ridden it for weeks, not for just one hour. I reached the top of the “mountain” at about 2000ft and here is where the ‘test’ truly began. I must admit that I enjoy any ascent and the hard work that goes into it. My downfall is typically with the descent. With the Santa Cruz Highball I had to back off significantly while descending and from any aggression as I am accustomed to a rear shock not only absorbing some of my mistakes but also absorbing the vertical oscillations. In other words, being “corn holed” is not that fun! I was death gripping the brakes for fear of pitching over the handle bars and had to stop a few times just to gather my wits. I knew then that I would have to practice a bit more with this new rig.

    On subsequent rides I became much more comfortable with the descending abilities of the HighBall and actually felt myself choosing a better line and being more aware of my surrounding by default… perhaps using this HT was going to teach me to be a better rider? The Highball was my bike of choice for every ride where we/I planned on going vertical. I climbed better with this bike than most I have ridden. Its prowess on the climbs or on race courses requiring goat-like climbing will be difficult to match. However, when riding with friends who were on full suspension 26” bikes or even better, with those who were on FS 29’ers, they would pull away even if it was a few meters ahead simply because they could ride the bumps more effectively and more forgivingly.

    Plain and simple, the HighBall is a cross-country racing bike. In Santa Cruz’s own words “The HighBall is a race ready hardtail…. The Highball is insanely light, razor sharp, nimble but surefooted, stiff as a plank, and designed to do two things: 1. Race. 2. Win.”

    I could not agree more! Racing is its primary function and purpose, and a long-haul epic riding steed it is not. It’s design, for my body, does not allow for optimal long distance comfort. The slightly shorter stays and the bent seat tube lead to vertical stiffness and the ‘chatter’ that we “love” so much on rough terrain. This bike allows for tremendous force transfer and power production at the bottom bracket. There is no apparent loss of force through frame flex and it’s tremendously agile and quick in tight cornering situations. The 2012 XTR group performed flawlessly and without incident adding to the feeling of being on a real racing rig.

    Smooth single track, steep ascents and rolling terrain is where this bike will excel. However, if in need of an “all mountain” or “all day” bike for epic style jaunts into the wilderness I would look into a non-racing rig of a different pedigree.
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  17. super

    super New Member

    Boa noite ! :cool::cool::cool:
    Aqui fica a minha nova traga kms !!!

    MONTAGEM :

    HIGHBALL M

    FOX FLOAT TERRALOGICA KASHIMA COAT 100MM 1/8-1/5 EIXO 15 MM

    CAIXAS DE DIREÇÃO CHRIS KING

    RODAS EASTON EA 90 XC

    PENEUS MAXXIS IKON 2.2

    TRAVÕES HOPE TECH X2 180/160 ( FALTA MONTAR 0 180)

    VOLANTE EASTON EC 90 XC

    AVANÇO RITCHEY (PROVISÓRIO)

    ESPIGÃO SELIM THOMSON SEATBACK MASTERPRICE

    SELIM SELLE ITALIA SLR CARBONO

    TRANSMIÇÃO X0 SILVER EDITON 10V COM GRIPSHIFT X0 9V ALTERADOS
    ANDAMENTOS 12/36 -28/42

    PEDAIS LOOK CARBON



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    AMANHA 1º TEST !!! :musica::musica::musica::musica::musica:
     
  18. Pernalonga

    Pernalonga New Member

    Ficou 5*. Muito bonita.
    Parabens
     
  19. arrabida_rider

    arrabida_rider New Member

    boas,
    se não e indiscrição quanto e que custou a "menina"?
     
  20. super

    super New Member

    não fiz as contas ja ha algum tempo que vinha comprando algum material ourto veio da santa anterior !!!
     

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