Santa Cruz 29er Highball Carbon Hardtail

Discussion in 'Santa Cruz & Ibis Bicycles' started by ruiabreu, 24 December 2010.

  1. SURFAS

    SURFAS New Member

    Sim duas opções

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    Mais fotos não há ... ainda nem nome tem. Ou pelo menos ainda não foi divulgado.
     
  2. old_fox

    old_fox Member

    Nunca mais temos novidades desta nova criação :barafustar:
     
  3. SURFAS

    SURFAS New Member

    Aqui fica

    Highball Carbon 29er

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    There are still those times and places where the best way to light the fuse and blow everyone else into the weeds is by riding a hardtail. Bigger wheels have revived the venerable double diamond design, and by mixing the smooth rolling hoops with a feathery 2.4-pound carbon fiber frame, we’ve come up with a potent race weapon. Anyone who complains about a bad day climbing while riding this bike needs to find another sport. The Highball is insanely light, razor sharp, nimble but surefooted, stiff as a plank, and designed to do two things: 1. Race. 2. Win.

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    Tapered head tube
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    Ultra-short chainstays
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    Curved seat tube
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    Dropouts, disc tabs molded into frame during proprietary one piece layup – lighter, stronger, stiffer.
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    2.45 lb frame weight
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    21lb as pictured
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    Available in Matte Carbon/Grey or Gloss Carbon/Red


    Geometry based on 505mm fork axle to crown with 15mm stack height
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    Preços ??? 1.899 US$ MSRP frame only - Complete bikes from 3.099 $US ......
     
    Last edited: 27 March 2011
  4. PDRO

    PDRO New Member

    Elegância sobre rodas!!
     
  5. Pernalonga

    Pernalonga New Member

    Bem só falta termos a bike, para o Surfas fazer um teste drive.
     
  6. SURFAS

    SURFAS New Member

    Bom ..... rígidas não são muito o meu gosto!!! Mas se me arranjares uma Nomad carbono :cheers:

    Mas que realmente o quadro está fabuloso, está e o pormenor travões The One. Mas acho que as novidades não se ficam por aqui :exacto:
     
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  7. SURFAS

    SURFAS New Member

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    Agora desculpem mas tenho de a guardar ...
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  8. hugobball

    hugobball New Member

    Se for para fazer o test drive à Nomad Carbon eu vou contigo, rigidas....não me parece.

    Espero ver aqui também fotos da Blur TRc essa é uma bike para quem gosta de singletracks! ;)
     
  9. Mach 4

    Mach 4 New Member

    "Biutifull"... :drool:

    Isto é mesmo bike para "galgar" caminho. E então com a nova pedaleira XTR...
    Design soberbo no seu todo com pormenores 5*.
    Entre a versão glossy (brilhante) e a matte (fosca) nem sei qual a melhor...

    A Santa Cruz tem uma grande equipa em todos os segmentos e por isso está a singrar sem stop.

    Está demonstrado que uma das novas tendências do mercado irá ser o aparecimento de cada vez mais bicicletas roda 29" com 10v. As marcas estão a aderir com força a esta variação tão esperada.
     
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  10. SURFAS

    SURFAS New Member

    Para os "maluquinhos" do peso ... uiiiiiiiiiiii

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  11. RTC

    RTC Super Moderador

    Bolas!
    9.6 kgs com esse equipamento? E há ali tanto por onde tirar...
     
  12. Pernalonga

    Pernalonga New Member

    Olá a todos.

    Já temos o preço para a HIGHBALL, vai custar 1.740 euros.

    Estamos a contar ter as primeiras disponiveis em meados de Maio.

    Já estamos a aceitar encomendas para as primeiras unidades que nos vão chegar.

    Boas pedaladas de SANTACRUZ claro !!!
     
  13. SURFAS

    SURFAS New Member

    "The Highball is top-of-class in terms of weight and stiffness, which make it extremely fast, but the chassis lacks built-in comfort"

    By Matt Pacocha, US editor, in Boulder, USA
    The new Highball represents many things for Santa Cruz. It’s their first cross-country hardtail and also their first non-full-suspension bike to be made from carbon fiber and have 29in wheels. First and foremost, though, it's a tool to win races. Throw a leg over the Highball and within a couple of pedal strokes you’ll get what we mean; it only takes a few to get the bike up to speed, even with the big wheels. Any rider looking to pound on the pedals and pound out the miles will feel immediately at home.

    Ride & handling: Dialed geometry, super-stiff in steering and pedaling, but a harsh ride

    We've reached a point where most manufacturers have nailed the angles that work with 29in wheels – a slacker head angle (compared to first generation big-wheelers), low bottom bracket and short chainstays – and started to produce well mannered bikes, and the Highball is no exception. Yes, it's slower handling than a bike with pure, razor sharp 26in cross-country geometry, but it falls in line with many slightly slacker cross-country racers and shorter-travel trail bikes.

    In the true test — riding it — the Highball shines in both tight and twisty walking-speed singletrack and the faster, flowy, bermed out buff stuff. It goes where pointed without too much muscle and just a hint of understeer. Considering its intended use, we were surprised to find that it wheelies and manuals with ease too, likely due to the low bottom bracket and short chainstays.

    From the first pedal stroke the bike squirts forward, with this responsive snap to attention when pedaled giving the first indication of its ultra stiff ride. This stiffness means the Highball offers point-and-shoot steering, thanks also to its 15mm through-axle fork. But some in-the-saddle comfort is sacrificed as a result.

    The ride gives a harsh first impression, especially when compared to rivals like Scott’s Scale 29 RC. But it also makes the Highball feel fast – something racers will undoubtedly appreciate. We'll need to do further testing before we can confirm whether the end result, especially on longer rides, is increased speed or just increased fatigue.

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    The big bottom bracket junction offers lots of pedalling stiffness

    Of course, switching from the supplied inner tubes to a tubeless setup would mellow it out, and the longer contact patch of the 29in wheels allows you to run lower tire pressures than on a 26in bike, adding comfort. While we appreciate that Santa Cruz have kept things consistent across their line by speccing a 30.9mm-diameter seatpost, it would be a simple modification to shim the seat tube to 27.2mm and run a carbon fiber post that’s slightly softer than the Thompson Masterpiece on our test bike.

    All told, the Highball is a pure and simple race bike that has the potential to make any weight obsessed cross-country hammer very happy. It's up there with the likes of the Scott Scale 29er and Trek’s new Superfly in a growing group of ultra-light big-wheeled cross-country bikes. “It’s what most people are racing [in the US] these days,” says Josh Kissner, Santa Cruz’s product manager. “You don’t see a ton of full suspension bikes, it’s all 29er hardtails, really.”

    Frame: High precision molding

    A medium frame is claimed to weigh just 2.4lb (1,088g) with all of its peripheral pieces, including seat collar, derailleur hanger and bottle cage bolts. However, weight isn't the whole story; the Highball has been designed with strength and stiffness as key priorities, and has no rider weight limit. The frame is also cleared for use with a 120mm fork. As tested, our medium Highball weighed 21.93lb (9.94kg) without pedals.

    The frame is made in the same way as all of Santa Cruz’s carbon bikes, using a style of tooled monocoque molding that allows extreme precision in regards to tube wall thickness. The frame is molded in three sections (front triangle and rear stays) then bonded together. Internally, Santa Cruz have eschewed several design changes that would have made the bike even lighter.

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    Santa Cruz use a finishing layer of woven carbon in the high-stress head tube area; the head tube itself is closed off with a bonded insert post molding so that headset removal tools can be used without worry

    There are no in-molded carbon headset bearing races; instead, Santa Cruz fit the tapered head tube with an inset upper and external lower type headset, citing that the weight to be saved is less than most would expect because of the extra carbon that would be required. There's also a threaded alloy bottom bracket (BB) shell rather than a press-fit one; Santa Cruz believe riders prefer the compatibility the old standard offers. It also means racers can run SRAM’s XX crank with its narrow 156mm Q-factor.

    Head tube length is an issue on many 29ers. On the Highball, Santa Cruz say they've specced the shortest head tube possible that will still take a tapered steerer – 100mm on the medium size. If you want a lower front end, there's always the option of running a negative rise stem.

    Equipment: Smart (and racy) spec

    Our test bike features Santa Cruz’s X0 XC build kit, made up of a SRAM 2x10 X0 drivetrain supplemented with Formula The One brakes, Easton EA90 stem and EC70 carbon handlebar, and a Thompson Masterpiece seatpost. Suspension is handled by a Fox F29RLC tapered steerer fork, while the whole package rolls on a custom 32-spoke wheelset with DT Swiss 240s rear hub, Chub front hub and XR400 rims, finished with Maxxis CrossMark tires.

    All of the parts performed well. The drivetrain nailed every shift – though given the bike’s purpose we wished for the noticeably narrower stance of the XX crank. Easton’s new handlebar deserves mention for a very solid feel and comfortable bend and sweep. At 685mm it's wide for a race bar, but this means you can run a shorter stem while keeping a similar reach (you’re extending further laterally rather than forward). The result is better breathing comfort and steering performance, and in this case the ability to raise the front wheel easily.

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    Formula's The One brake is fixed to an entirely carbon brake mount, save for two T-style inserts in the brake mount, which allow facing

    Formula’s The One brakes offer excellent power and modulation. However, their clamps don’t mate as neatly with the bar as Avid’s do. This only becomes an issue when you try to squeeze an additional lockout lever onto the bar. We also took issue with the range of The One’s reach adjustment — finding the lever too far out even when the adjuster was cranked to the inward stop.

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  14. SURFAS

    SURFAS New Member

    Uma Highball já anda por um dos mais difíceis "provas" nos Estados Unidos Tour Divide

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  15. karlos.figueiredo

    karlos.figueiredo New Member

    Por Aveiro também já rola mais uma... esta é a segunda da linha de montagem do César - Pernalonga :)

    Quanto estiver terminada (rodas e outros componentes) faço a apresentação como deve ser.

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  16. JNR

    JNR New Member

    eheh, agora percebo o avatar...

    Bom, escrevi há uns tempos no tópico da tallboy que era das poucas que não parecia uma "coisa" com rodas, isto por causa das proporções a que estamos habituados, é bom ver que estas novas já têm pelo menos a geometria mais pensada nas 29'r e pelo menos na estética já são 6*.

    A andar nem sei quantas teria que dar...
     
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  17. karlos.figueiredo

    karlos.figueiredo New Member

    Tubo traseiro curvo, testa do quadro de dimensões reduzidas, escoras traseiras relativamente curtas... quem olha de repente nem diz que é uma 29er

    6*s de estética sóbria e discreta (em cinza mate pelo menos), mas nos trilhos é tudo menos discreta :D

    A andar, digamos que vai ter de levar um disco de 180mm na frente porque a velocidade a descer assim o obriga.....
     
  18. JNR

    JNR New Member

    eheh, já tinha pensado nisso...

    Parece offtopic mas não é :) :

    Surfas, ou César, a tallboy experimentada e que andou por Ponte de Lima, tem 180 ou 160mm à frente?
     
  19. karlos.figueiredo

    karlos.figueiredo New Member

    Sendo a mesma que andou cmg no caramulo, tem 120mm na frente :)
     
  20. JNR

    JNR New Member

    opá, não é o curso da suspenção, é o diâmetro do disco, ou o valor que deste é o diâmetro???? pensava que só faziam até 140mm...

    e pensava que a suspa era de 100mm???
     

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