Jogos Olimpicos 2012 - Lusitânia Road to London.

Moniz82

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Vamos a contas.


No que respeita ao apuramento para o jogos olímpicos, Portugal a 5 de Setembro encontra-se na seguinte situação:

32º lugar (duas posições ganhas desde a última actualização)

David Rosa 194 pontos
Ruben Almeida 120 pontos
Tiago Ferreira 90 pontos
Total: 404 pontos


O meu conselho, que vale o que vale, levem estes 3 atletas a todas as provas (C1 ou C2) que conseguirem, onde a obtenção de pontos é mais realística, tipo Turquia ou Chipre...(O David Rosa sozinho colheu 40 pontos na Turquia se o Tiago e o Ruben tivessem participado talvez o pódio teria sido totalmente Luso e vejam quantos pontos isso não daria) Pensem nisto...
para as Taças do Mundo levem apenas o que tiver mais chances de colher pontos sendo que o dinheiro gasto por cada ponto ganho sai assim mais rentável. Apostem também no team relay poderá ser uma boa oportunidade de meter a correr bons atletas mas que não são estes 3 e assim colher preciosos pontos poupando os que realmente estão na corrida aos jogos. Penso eu que deveremos pôr o interesse olímpico acima de qualquer outro porque a visibilidade será outra e se o conseguirmos em 2012, depois para 2016 será tudo mais fácil (patrocínios, tempo de antena etc.)



Saudações

António Moniz
 

Caruma biker

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Calendário 2012
Data Prova Categoria
19.02 XCO Internacional de Rans C2
26.02 Taça de Portugal XCO - Silves C2
11.03 XCO Internacional - Moreira de Cónegos C3
18.03 Taça de Portugal XCO - Divrlanhoso C1
01.04 Taça de Portugal XCO - Oliveira Azeméis C1
22.04 Taça de Portugal XCO - Seia C1
29.04 Taça de Portugal XCO - Melres C3
27.05 Taça de Portugal XCO - Tougues C3
17.06 Taça de Portugal XCO – Torres Vedras C3
22.07 Campeonato Nacional XCO


As proxima prova de categoria internacional em portugal para 2012...
vamos no bom caminho. o unico reparo era as C3 passarem a C2
Mas ja podemos contar com 3 C1.

:venia:

in: http://www.uvp-fpc.pt/index_noticia_ver.php?id_noticia_new=2438&pag=1
 

Trufox

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Retirei isto do site da UCI... Dia 22 apenas diz CN de DHI... Mas tem de ser nesse fim de semana o CN de XCO, tal como o Caruma colocou... Será que vai ser no mesmo fim de semana e no mesmo local? Pena as duas últimas provas da taça já não contarem para o ranking do JO, mas serviram de preparação para o atleta que lá for! ;) Bom de ver também as provas de DHI em classe 2 tal como a Douro Bike Race! Muito bem!

2012 UCI Mountain Bike Calendar

Taça de Portugal
26.02 Portugal Cup XCO - Silves Class 2-XCO
18.03 Portugal Cup XCO - Povoa de Lanhoso Class 1-XCO
01.04 Portugal Cup XCO - Oliveira de Azemeis Class 1-XCO
22.04 Portugal Cup XCO - Seia Class 1-XCO
27.05 Portugal Cup XCO - Vila Do Conde Class3-XCO
17.06 Portugal Cup XCO - Torres Vedras Class3-XCO

Provas Extra Taça
19.02 XCO Internacional de Rans - Rans - Penafiel Class 2-XCO
11.03 Troféu Internacional XCO - Moreira De Conegos Class3-XCO
29.04 Challenge LabMed XCO - Melres Class3-XCO

Campeonato Nacional DHI ?e XCO?

22.07 Portuguese National Championships - DHI - Vila Nova

Campeonato Nacional de XCM

30.09 Portuguese National Championships - XCM - S.B. Messines

Taça de Portugal de DHI
11.03 Portugal Cup DHI - Lousã Class 2-DHI
01.04 Portugal Cup DHI - Manteigas Class 2-DHI
09.09 Portugal Cup DHI - Penela Class 2-DHI

Lisboa DownTown
22.09 Lisboa Down Town - Lisboa Class 1-DHI

Prova por etapas
14.09 - 16.09 Douro Bike Race - Amarante Class S2-XCS

UCI

Já agora, alguém sabe qual Vila Nova é?
 
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Trufox

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Bem escolhidas as datas, pois 1ª prova da taça do mundo que é na África do Sul, calha no mesmo dia da prova C1 em Póvoa do Lanhoso. A 2ª, 3ª e 4ª são todas na Europa e não calha com nenhuma prova! Agora só temos que esperar que além destas provas os nossos atletas consigam ainda mais pontos noutras provas, pois só assim podemos sonhar com 1 lugarzito em Londres... Depois é continuar a realizar provas neste ritmo e até 2016, 2020, 2024... Não se pode deixar cair no esquecimento. Para que possamos estar num ponto alto do ranking tem de ser algo contínuo!

17.03 - 18.03 UCI World Cup XCO 1 / DHI 1 - Pietermaritzburg RSA
14.04 - 15.04 UCI World Cup XCO 2 / XCE 1 - Houffalize BEL
12.05 - 13.05 UCI World Cup XCO 3 / XCE 2 - Nove Mesto na Morave CZE
19.05 - 20.05 UCI World Cup XCO 4 / XCE 3 - La Bresse FRA
23.06 - 24.06 UCI World Cup XCO 5 / DHI 4 - Mont-Sainte-Anne CAN
30.06 - 01.07 UCI World Cup XCO 6 / DHI 5 - Windham USA
28.07 - 29.07 UCI World Cup XCO 7 / DHI 6 - Val d'Isère FRA
06.09 - 09.09 UCI XCO/XCE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS - Saalfelden AUT
 

Moniz82

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E se fossem vocês?


Lanço o desafio de planearem a época 2012 para os nossos atletas com vista ao apuramento para os Jogos Olímpicos de Londres. Por outras palavras, que fariam os Srs caso fossem o seleccionador nacional??

- Para o Ranking da nação com vista ao apuramento contam apenas os 3 atletas mais pontuados que neste momento são os seguintes: David Rosa, Ruben Almeida, Tiago Ferreira.


- Podem encontrar o calendário para 2012 aqui: http://www.uci.ch/templates/BUILTIN-NOFRAMES/Template3/layout.asp?MenuId=MTUyMjU&LangId=1#

- 22 de maio de 2012 será o ultimo dia em que se poderá obter pontos, depois desta data qualquer prova que se faça já não contara para o apuramento aos jogos de Londres.

- Neste momento estamos na 32ª posição e para levarmos um atleta teremos de atingir a 24ª posição.


Saudações

António Moniz
 

Trufox

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Já viram a quantidade de provas que haverá na Turquia ainda este ano e no ano que vem? Uma C1 logo no 1º dia do ano!!! Espertos!!! Acho que em vez de gastar €uros em viagens para participar na taça do mundo, devia-se participar em grande parte das provas lá!

Provas até final da qualificação apenas na Turquia!
2011 - 1 provas C1 e 3 provas C2
2012 - 4 provas C1 e 7 provas C2
 
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RaCCeR

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Ser esperto ou ser os melhores ao contrário que muita gente pensa é estár lá nas taças do mundo, ainh espetaculo... e os pontos camaradas ??

Eles sim é que são espertos gastam o dinheiro das participações nas taças do mundo etc.. para fazer das suas provas C1 e C2! ;)
 

nhunho

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Ranking - Mountain Bike 2011

Men Elite UCI Ranking Cross Country Nation
15: 05 Sep 2011


Points details
Individual
Nation
Rank Name Nation Points
1 (1) SWITZERLAND SUI 4,772
2 (2) FRANCE FRA 4,077
3 (3) CZECH REPUBLIC CZE 3,945
4 (4) SPAIN ESP 3,097
5 (5) GERMANY GER 2,929
6 (6) ITALY ITA 2,671
7 (9) NETHERLANDS NED 2,143
8 (7) UNITED STATES USA 2,130
9 (8) SOUTH AFRICA RSA 1,925
10 (10) AUSTRIA AUT 1,888
11 (11) CANADA CAN 1,839
12 (13) BELGIUM BEL 1,679
13 (12) POLAND POL 1,621
14 (14) GREAT BRITAIN GBR 1,274
15 (16) SWEDEN SWE 1,169
16 (18) AUSTRALIA AUS 1,165
17 (15) JAPAN JPN 1,130
18 (17) GREECE GRE 1,100
19 (21) UKRAINE UKR 1,010
20 (19) HUNGARY HUN 1,008
21 (20) ARGENTINA ARG 939
22 (22) BRAZIL BRA 864
23 (27) PORTUGAL POR 748
24 (24) CYPRUS CYP 717
25 (23) FINLAND FIN 698
26 (26) NEW ZEALAND NZL 690
27 (25) RUSSIA RUS 689
28 (31) DENMARK DEN 661
29 (30) NORWAY NOR 657
30 (29) NAMIBIA NAM 645
31 (28) TURKEY TUR 633
32 (32) CHILE CHI 522
33 (33) SLOVAKIA SVK 501
34 (34) ISRAEL ISR 496
35 (35) IRAN IRI 444
36 (36) ESTONIA EST 430
37 (37) COLOMBIA COL 418
38 (38) SERBIA SRB 402
39 (39) COSTA RICA CRC 397
40 (40) KAZAKHSTAN KAZ 382
 
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nhunho

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Ranking - Mountain Bike 2011/2012

Men Elite UCI Olympic Qualification Ranking Cross Country Nation
10: 05 Sep 2011

1 (1) switzerland sui 3,468
2 (2) czech republic cze 2,759
3 (3) france fra 2,712
4 (4) spain esp 2,046
5 (5) italy ita 1,683
6 (6) germany ger 1,668
7 (7) netherlands ned 1,453
8 (8) united states usa 1,319
9 (9) canada can 1,252
10 (11) belgium bel 1,086
11 (14) poland pol 1,062
12 (10) japan jpn 1,005
13 (13) south africa rsa 962
14 (12) austria aut 960
15 (15) great britain gbr 829
16 (17) ukraine ukr 679
17 (16) argentina arg 654
18 (22) sweden swe 640
19 (20) greece gre 629
20 (19) hungary hun 576
21 (24) russia rus 573
22 (23) denmark den 573
23 (18) cyprus cyp 568
24 (33) australia aus 510
25 (21) finland fin 501
26 (25) norway nor 492
27 (28) brazil bra 483
28 (26) turkey tur 481
29 (29) israel isr 452
30 (27) iran iri 444
31 (31) slovakia svk 431
32 (34) portugal por 404
33 (30) kazakhstan kaz 376
34 (32) serbia srb 362
35 (36) estonia est 352
36 (37) new zealand nzl 338
37 (35) slovenia slo 328
38 (39) costa rica crc 308
39 (38) malaysia mas 306
40 (41) china chn 295
 
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nhunho

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O mais interessante é estarmos em 23º no ranking 2011, e em 32º no ranking de apuramento para os J.O.
Não sei para quê os dois rankings!

O primeiro servia perfeitamente a portugal :) ...
 

ruibfc

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deixo aqui o detalhe dos pontos:
Men Elite UCI Olympic Qualification Ranking Cross Country Nation

30 Portugal (POR) 449

David Joao Serralheiro ROSA POR19861112 224
Ruben ALMEIDA POR19880917 135
Tiago Jorge Oliveira FERREIRA POR19881207 90
 

Moniz82

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Caros Colegas,


Devido ao facto, das opções disponíveis na secção da votação, estarem, nesta nova versão do forum, um pouco limitadas, não me será possível lançar uma nova votação para 2012.


Saudações


Antonio Moniz
 

Moniz82

New Member
Boa tarde.

Resultados da votação 2011:




David Rosa obteve 83 votos sendo o vencedor, em segundo com 82 votos "outro atleta que não os mencionados" e em terceiro Tiago Ferreira com 63 votos.

Quanto ao Ranking para a qualificação olímpica, portugal fechou o ano em 31 com 449 pontos. Contudo, começamos 2012 da melhor forma, com David Rosa a conquistar hoje 30 pontos para a nação, fruto do seu terceiro lugar numa prova na Turquia.


Julgo que se existir união nacional entre os 3 atletas mais pontuados, David Rosa, Ruben Almeida e Tiago Ferreira, será mesmo possível colocar um atleta Português em Londres. Este será o grande desafio do seleccionador, motivar 3 atletas a conquistar pontos para apenas colocar um.


Saudações e bom ano 2012
 

Moniz82

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Olympic Cycling: Guide to Mountain Bike Racing


Full specifications
Cycling discipline features for fifth time in 2012 Olympics

Mountain biking is a relatively young Olympic sport. First included in 1996 in Atlanta, it has also been part of the 2000 Games in Sydney, the 2004 Games in Athens and the 2008 Games in Beijing. Although the ever-evolving sport encompasses a variety of disciplines, only cross country racing is part of the Olympic mountain bike experience. Those who favor marathon, short track or gravity racing are out of luck.

Many of the world's fastest cross country racers will line up at Hadleigh Park in Essex County near London for the 2012 Olympic cross country race. The women will race on Saturday, August 11 at 12:30 pm local time while the men will take to the off-road track on Sunday, August 12 at 1:30 pm.

The format

The Olympic cross country race is multi-lap type of cross country event run in a format similar to a World Cup cross country. In 2012 in London, racers can expect a duration of about 1.5 hours of high intensity suffering from start to finish.

A mass start event means grid position is important, but because there are many fewer competitors in an Olympic mountain bike race than in a typical World Cup, the starts are not nearly as chaotic. Fifty male and 30 female racers are expected at the Olympic Games per defined quotas. In contrast, the elite men's field at a popular World Cup can top 200 riders.

The Olympic circuit is located in the town of Hadleigh, approximately one hour east of London, overlooking the Thames River Estuary. It is wide open, rolling terrain, and the course is completely man-made.

Organizers have built a roughly five-kilometre loop that sends the riders up and down the rolling hills multiple times, and they have constructed a number of rock garden sections dotted through the circuit. Most of the surface is crushed gravel, with a few grass and hard packed dirt sections. It should hold up well in both wet and dry conditions. It will be very spectator and TV-friendly, with large sections viewable from a single vantage point.

The course got a dry run during an official Test Event on July 31, 2011. Catharine Pendrel (Canada) won the women's race in 1:32:04, ahead of Georgia Gould (United States Of America) and Julie Bresset (France).

"You appreciate the hardness of the climbs in race conditions," said Pendrel after winning. "I think it races well; it's a hard course, a fast course, I think it's anyone's course."

In the men's test event, Julien Absalon (France) won in 1:31:48, ahead of Christoph Sauser (Switzerland) and Karl Markt (Austria).

"I'm also happy with the track. Finally it's good to ride, it is a fun track and it's interesting," said Absalon.

Qualification

The qualification process for earning a spot to compete at the Olympic Games is quite complicated and top racers spend years working toward the goal of just making their national team, let alone actually winning a medal.

It is UCI which determines the allocation of Olympic Games spots. Most of them are decided based on its rankings of nations worldwide, but a few spots are reserved for highly ranked nations in one of four regions organized by continents.

Because of the limited number of Olympic spots and the large number of countries which participate, not every country gets to send a representative.

The first criterion is international rankings, as determined by the UCI.

For the men, the top five ranked nations send three athletes each while nations ranked sixth through 13th send two athletes each. Nations number 14 through 24 get one rider each.

For the women, the top eight ranked nations get to send two riders each while those ranked ninth through 18th send one each.

There is a second way athletes can get to the Olympics. If a nation does not already qualify athletes via the aforementioned international rankings system, it can send one male athlete each if it is in the top two ranked nations in the continental regions of Africa, American, Asia or Oceania. Or it can send one female rider each if ranked first in any of those same areas.

Any nation that qualifies under the first criterion will not count in the second criterion, and in that case the next best nation gets the spot.

UCI "Olympic Qualification Rankings" are a combination of UCI rankings by nation from two periods: May 23, 2010 to May 22, 2011 and May 23, 2011 to May 22, 2012. They are calculated by summing points of the three best placed riders from each nation in the UCI individual ranking for Olympic format events. Nations with only one or two riders will also be included in the UCI ranking by nations. In case of a tie, the ranking of each nation's best rider determines the top ranked nation.

On May 23, 2012, the UCI will establish the UCI Olympic Qualification Ranking, and by June 1, it will have confirmed the number of qualifying spots for each nation. Countries have until June 15, 2012 to confirm they will use all earned spots and if there are any unused spots, they will get re-allocated on June 29, 2012. Entries are due to the London 2012 Organising Committee by July 2, 2012.

Once the spots are allocated by nation, it's up to national federations to dole them out to their top athletes. The most competitive nations come up with detailed procedures a few years in advance of each Olympic Games, and those are followed strictly throughout the athlete selection process in the hopes of avoiding controversy of the sort that happened with the US team during the run-up to the 2004 Olympic Games in Athens.

Where things get tricky is in nations with lots of talent. Even the best mountain bike racer producing nations in the world only get up to three male and two female athlete spots. Take a country like Switzerland, which is famous for its depth of male cross country mountain bike talent and the competition is fierce just to make the team. The same is true for the Canadian and American women hoping to get to the start line in the London.

To read an example of how a nation like the United States is handling mountain bike Olympic team qualification, read this article.

Unlike some Olympic sports, all mountain bike Olympians must reach the age of 19 in the year of the Olympic Games, so any fast youngsters are not eligible for selection. New Zealand's Anton Cooper recently found this out firsthand - an appeal of the minimum age was denied to the junior sensation.

History

Bart Brentjens and Paola Pezzo made history in 1996 by becoming the first winners of the Olympic cross country mountain bike races held at Conyers Park near Atlanta, Georgia, in the United States.

Four years later in Sydney, Australia, gold medals went to Miguel Martinez and Paola Pezzo.

In Athens, Greece, in 2004, Julien Absalon and Gunn-Rita Dahle Flesjaa took a turn standing atop the podium.

Finally, in Beijing, China, Julien Absalon and Sabine Spitz showed everyone just how fast they could be on one of the most important days of their careers.

Mountain biking wasn't added to the Olympics until 1996 in part because the sport hadn't existed for long before that. It was born in the 70s, and the first mountain bike national championships wasn't held until 1983 in the United States. Mountain biking quickly caught on globally, and the first UCI-recognized mountain bike world championships were held in 1990.

Full Specifications
Past Olympic mountain bike medallists

Women

1996
Gold: Paola Pezzo (Italy)
Silver: Alison Sydor 9Canada)
Bronze: Susan DeMattei (United States)

2000
Gold: Paola Pezzo (Italy)
Silver: Barbara Blatter (Switzerland)
Bronze: Marga Fullana (Spain)

2004
Gold: Gunn-Rita Dahle Flesjaa (Norway)
Silver: Marie Helene Premont (Canada)
Bronze: Sabine Spitz (Germany)

2008
Gold: Sabine Spitz (Germany)
Silver: Maja Wloszczowksa (Poland)
Bronze: Irina Kalentieva (Russia)

Men

1996
Gold: Bart Brentjens (Netherlands)
Silver: Thomas Frischknecht (Switzerland)
Bronze: Miguel Martinez (France)

2000
Gold: Miguel Martinez (France)
Silver: Filip Meirhaeghe (Belgium)
Bronze: Christoph Sauser (Switzerland)

2004
Gold: Julien Absalon (France)
Silver: Jose Antonio Hermida (Spain)
Bronze: Bart Brentjens (Netherlands)

2008
Gold: Julien Absalon (France)
Silver: Jean-Christophe Peraud (France)
Bronze: Nino Schurter (Switzerland)


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